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		<title>By: Liam Price</title>
		<link>http://www.begtodiffer.com/2009/10/starbucks-declares-war-on-its-own-brand/comment-page-1/#comment-36627</link>
		<dc:creator>Liam Price</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jul 2010 00:38:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i am always watching for any product launch on the internet as i am a gadget addict myself..&#039;:</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i am always watching for any product launch on the internet as i am a gadget addict myself..&#8217;:</p>
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		<title>By: Dennis Van Staalduinen</title>
		<link>http://www.begtodiffer.com/2009/10/starbucks-declares-war-on-its-own-brand/comment-page-1/#comment-29774</link>
		<dc:creator>Dennis Van Staalduinen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Oct 2009 13:05:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The pun was well worth the wait. Had you used it instantly, I&#039;d have missed the careful brewing process with its grinding (i.e. my teeth), steeping (i.e. hurtling off a cliff), and drip-dripping (i.e. water torture).

Yeah, I&#039;m hearing a lot of positives about the product too. But I&#039;m also hearing a lot of unprompted &quot;what are they thinking?&quot;

I still think they should have distanced themselves from the product - like one of those paper sleeves on a hot cup of coffee.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The pun was well worth the wait. Had you used it instantly, I&#8217;d have missed the careful brewing process with its grinding (i.e. my teeth), steeping (i.e. hurtling off a cliff), and drip-dripping (i.e. water torture).</p>
<p>Yeah, I&#8217;m hearing a lot of positives about the product too. But I&#8217;m also hearing a lot of unprompted &#8220;what are they thinking?&#8221;</p>
<p>I still think they should have distanced themselves from the product &#8211; like one of those paper sleeves on a hot cup of coffee.</p>
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		<title>By: Ron Antonette</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ron Antonette</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Oct 2009 22:45:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just saw your link from the Adrants story.

As a brand guy, I agree with your take. 

But as a in-the-neighborhood guy, I&#039;m surprised by the positive reactions I&#039;ve heard from neighbors and others about the product, a couple of people remarking that it&#039;s something they could serve at home for visitors. Makes me wonder if this is consistent with their research, thus giving Starbucks hope that they have a VIA-ble product. (I waited several sentences for that pun.)

In my store, they compared Via alongside Starbucks&#039; bland Pike Place Blend, which was a clever move as the Via did taste smoother. I didn&#039;t find Via to taste any better than Taster&#039;s Choice, another instant coffee with decent coffee flavoring. 
 
Still, it would be surprising if people did &quot;replace your office coffee&quot; with Via: The cost for two 8 oz. cups of instant is a few nickels more than the equivalent, freshly brewed Grande cup of drip coffee. May as well buy a fresh cup in the morning and reheat it later -- it still will be better than the office pot left on the burner all morning.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just saw your link from the Adrants story.</p>
<p>As a brand guy, I agree with your take. </p>
<p>But as a in-the-neighborhood guy, I&#8217;m surprised by the positive reactions I&#8217;ve heard from neighbors and others about the product, a couple of people remarking that it&#8217;s something they could serve at home for visitors. Makes me wonder if this is consistent with their research, thus giving Starbucks hope that they have a VIA-ble product. (I waited several sentences for that pun.)</p>
<p>In my store, they compared Via alongside Starbucks&#8217; bland Pike Place Blend, which was a clever move as the Via did taste smoother. I didn&#8217;t find Via to taste any better than Taster&#8217;s Choice, another instant coffee with decent coffee flavoring. </p>
<p>Still, it would be surprising if people did &#8220;replace your office coffee&#8221; with Via: The cost for two 8 oz. cups of instant is a few nickels more than the equivalent, freshly brewed Grande cup of drip coffee. May as well buy a fresh cup in the morning and reheat it later &#8212; it still will be better than the office pot left on the burner all morning.</p>
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		<title>By: Dennis Van Staalduinen</title>
		<link>http://www.begtodiffer.com/2009/10/starbucks-declares-war-on-its-own-brand/comment-page-1/#comment-29710</link>
		<dc:creator>Dennis Van Staalduinen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Oct 2009 13:10:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with you that the following aren&#039;t bad ideas for Starbucks: 

1) GOOD IDEA: having an entry into the &quot;premium&quot; end of the instant coffee market. I think Nescafe / Taster&#039;s Choice have been struggling to define this market in North America over the last few years, so I think Starbucks - who was untainted by the &quot;Instant&quot; coffee stigma thus far - has a strong business opportunity and is wise to exploit it. 

2) GOOD IDEA: Use this new product as a way to get people into your stores and re-introduce Starbucks as an innovative purveyor of high-value, high-touch coffee products.

But here&#039;s the rub:

3) BAD IDEA: branding it as a Starbucks product. This is &quot;lose&quot; number 1 to me. &quot;A Starbucks&quot; is not just a cup of coffee; it&#039;s an experiece, a feeling, and a social marker.  

4) BAD IDEA: messaging that this tastes even remotely as good as Starbucks coffee (even if it were true - which it isn&#039;t).

I could go on at length about what I would have recommended (and I started to before I realized how long the post was already) but in brief: I think they should have a) launched this product  as a new non-Starbucks house brand, with Starbucks as a silent endorser, b) given it a name that would serve as a category-defining name for super-premium instant coffee (&quot;Ready-Brew&quot; ain&#039;t that), and c) run the taste tests against other instant coffees in a true Pepsi Taste Test way.  

I also would play with the idea of setting up a brand label for &quot;Starbucks Kitchens&quot; or &quot;Starbucks Labs&quot; or &quot;Inspired by Starbucks&quot; (which is what they&#039;re using on their new &quot;local&quot; coffee-houses.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with you that the following aren&#8217;t bad ideas for Starbucks: </p>
<p>1) GOOD IDEA: having an entry into the &#8220;premium&#8221; end of the instant coffee market. I think Nescafe / Taster&#8217;s Choice have been struggling to define this market in North America over the last few years, so I think Starbucks &#8211; who was untainted by the &#8220;Instant&#8221; coffee stigma thus far &#8211; has a strong business opportunity and is wise to exploit it. </p>
<p>2) GOOD IDEA: Use this new product as a way to get people into your stores and re-introduce Starbucks as an innovative purveyor of high-value, high-touch coffee products.</p>
<p>But here&#8217;s the rub:</p>
<p>3) BAD IDEA: branding it as a Starbucks product. This is &#8220;lose&#8221; number 1 to me. &#8220;A Starbucks&#8221; is not just a cup of coffee; it&#8217;s an experiece, a feeling, and a social marker.  </p>
<p>4) BAD IDEA: messaging that this tastes even remotely as good as Starbucks coffee (even if it were true &#8211; which it isn&#8217;t).</p>
<p>I could go on at length about what I would have recommended (and I started to before I realized how long the post was already) but in brief: I think they should have a) launched this product  as a new non-Starbucks house brand, with Starbucks as a silent endorser, b) given it a name that would serve as a category-defining name for super-premium instant coffee (&#8220;Ready-Brew&#8221; ain&#8217;t that), and c) run the taste tests against other instant coffees in a true Pepsi Taste Test way.  </p>
<p>I also would play with the idea of setting up a brand label for &#8220;Starbucks Kitchens&#8221; or &#8220;Starbucks Labs&#8221; or &#8220;Inspired by Starbucks&#8221; (which is what they&#8217;re using on their new &#8220;local&#8221; coffee-houses.</p>
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		<title>By: Dennis Van Staalduinen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dennis Van Staalduinen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Oct 2009 12:55:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nicely put Stephen. I&#039;m a (reluctant) campfire insta-swill consumer as well. I&#039;ve tried a plastic Bodum, and I&#039;ve tried the old pour-straight through a filter method, but after a few 2nd degree burns, I&#039;m back to the powder. But just as powdered mashed potatoes seem delicious and convenient in the middle of Algonquin Park, I&#039;m not about to  make them at home when I have a choice.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nicely put Stephen. I&#8217;m a (reluctant) campfire insta-swill consumer as well. I&#8217;ve tried a plastic Bodum, and I&#8217;ve tried the old pour-straight through a filter method, but after a few 2nd degree burns, I&#8217;m back to the powder. But just as powdered mashed potatoes seem delicious and convenient in the middle of Algonquin Park, I&#8217;m not about to  make them at home when I have a choice.</p>
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		<title>By: Stephen Dykstra</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stephen Dykstra</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Oct 2009 02:08:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The last time I had a cup of instant coffee was on a camping trip, because nobody really cares about the taste of it, just that it&#039;s coffee. Most people that are drinking instant coffee are not looking for the Starbucks &quot;experience&quot; and would therefore never pay the Starbucks prices.
I agree this is a bad strategy for Starbucks</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The last time I had a cup of instant coffee was on a camping trip, because nobody really cares about the taste of it, just that it&#8217;s coffee. Most people that are drinking instant coffee are not looking for the Starbucks &#8220;experience&#8221; and would therefore never pay the Starbucks prices.<br />
I agree this is a bad strategy for Starbucks</p>
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		<title>By: Philip Coulon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Philip Coulon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Oct 2009 22:52:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I respectfully disagree that Starbucks Via is a lose-lose for the company.

Via isn&#039;t going for the same market as regular Starbucks Coffee. It&#039;s tapping into the more than 20 billion dollars a year spent on instant coffee. A market that the company currently plays no part in.  Even a small percent of this market means new dollars for Starbucks. 

As you mentioned above, consumers likely won&#039;t consider Via an alternative to going into a Starbucks. (&quot;No not coffee-maker coffee, let&#039;s go out for real coffee.&quot;) Instead the new product opens the range of experiences in which a customer can interact with the Starbucks brand. 

As far as stopping into the store for the taste challenge: It (a) got people into the store, and (b) got them into a hands-on VIA experience with a knowledgeable sales rep. Something any start up brand should be aiming for! 

My bet is that Starbucks largest challenge won&#039;t be a civil-war over of their own products, but getting consumers over the &#039;yuck&#039; factor they use to pre-judge instant coffee.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I respectfully disagree that Starbucks Via is a lose-lose for the company.</p>
<p>Via isn&#8217;t going for the same market as regular Starbucks Coffee. It&#8217;s tapping into the more than 20 billion dollars a year spent on instant coffee. A market that the company currently plays no part in.  Even a small percent of this market means new dollars for Starbucks. </p>
<p>As you mentioned above, consumers likely won&#8217;t consider Via an alternative to going into a Starbucks. (&#8220;No not coffee-maker coffee, let&#8217;s go out for real coffee.&#8221;) Instead the new product opens the range of experiences in which a customer can interact with the Starbucks brand. </p>
<p>As far as stopping into the store for the taste challenge: It (a) got people into the store, and (b) got them into a hands-on VIA experience with a knowledgeable sales rep. Something any start up brand should be aiming for! </p>
<p>My bet is that Starbucks largest challenge won&#8217;t be a civil-war over of their own products, but getting consumers over the &#8216;yuck&#8217; factor they use to pre-judge instant coffee.</p>
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		<title>By: Dennis Van Staalduinen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dennis Van Staalduinen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Oct 2009 20:51:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, here it is folks: my review of Starbucks VIA Ready Brew.

The verdict is... Not great. Not disastrously bad either, but watery and limp. It in no way approaches a cup of real, freshly brewed coffee.

Sorry Big Bucks. Not winning this one.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, here it is folks: my review of Starbucks VIA Ready Brew.</p>
<p>The verdict is&#8230; Not great. Not disastrously bad either, but watery and limp. It in no way approaches a cup of real, freshly brewed coffee.</p>
<p>Sorry Big Bucks. Not winning this one.</p>
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